Why do we have so many unmarried women today?

[clix]

I'm not familiar with them. Can you list some?

[math_doc]

There is WIC (Women, Infants, and Children) (free food). My wife and kids used to get it years ago. Our family financial situation had to be reviewed every 3 to 4 months for the required ANNUAL review. After the 4th one I asked my an annual review happened every quarter. I figured it was because I was actually still married to the mother of our children or because I was white.

[clix]

Did they give you an answer?

[math_doc]

NO
Of course it was often hard to meet with the couselor at the time they told me I had to appear. I came to their appointment, but they would often be outside walking. They said they had to exercise. I amused myself by watching the two receptionists. They would talk to each other but never answer the phone. I actually saw them answer the phone once. The phone rang about 30 times and one receptionists finally sadi, "that ringing is bothering the heck out me. Let me go ahead and answer it."

[General Hawk]

This is an interesting topic, in my church, which is Eastern Orthodox, there are more single women than men, I believe it is much worse in Protestant Churches from what I hear.

I have been approach by the parents of 4 single women to date to inquire if I would be interested in their daughters. All these women are in their 30s. I politely say, I am busy at this time, appreciate the inquiry, and really do not have time to focus on any type of relationship that would be conducive to a harmonious environment.

Granted the divorce rate is very low among Eastern Orthodox Christians as compared to Protestant Demnominations, but still, with the overreaching power of government into every part of a persons private life, particularly the draconian system of family courts, the exteme bias toward women in a divorce - 90% of the time the woman gets the house, kids, alimony, saving, etc., and the divorce rate is actually the same or worse when it comes to Christian couples as well, I will not put myself at risk for all of what I have worked for to be given by FORCE via government to a woman.

Let these women be single and maybe they will get a clue. Maybe they will start questioning the cause, instead of blaming men for "not being responsible" (aka Debbie Maken).

As for me, I am happy to be single, have a good life blessed by God, and will expat the US in the near future to raise a produtive family in a country with minimal government instrusion.

As a man, being a blessing to a woman that is grateful to have a man in her life and desires to serve that man in all rigtheousness and understands the toxic culture of the West and will have no part of it, is defintely something God will bless between them. Tis a pity, women in the West, and particular Christian women, have no clue whatsoever.

General Hawk

[vic-chic]

I believe there is a huge difference between women who have made Jesus Christ their Lord and those who are just good church members.
Many women have made the christian religion their god.

[General Hawk]

I believe there is a huge difference between women who have made Jesus Christ their Lord and those who are just good church members.
Many women have made the christian religion their god.

This is a very good point, and I will extrapolate on this point.

Not only have they made the Christian religion their god, but just another god and/or goddess in the pantheon of their gods.

They also have:

The goddess of the white picket fenced homes (the goddess Hestia).

The goddess of marriage (Hera, or more contemporary, Debbie Maken).

The goddess of the 2.5 kids (Demeter - fertility god).

The god of the churchy suburbanite lifestyle (Dionysus - social influence).

General Hawk

[rixistential]

The god of the churchy suburbanite lifestyle (Dionysus - social influence).

Private Hawk... How does the god of wine, frenzy, emotion, and excess fit in with the comfortable, sedate, and all too predictable world of the suburban soccer mom with 2.5 kids?

[General Hawk]

How does the god of wine, frenzy, emotion, and excess fit in with the comfortable, sedate, and all too predictable world of the suburban soccer mom with 2.5 kids?

The outside of the churchy suburbanite lifestyle appears comfortable, sedate, and predictable, but on the inside, these women are worshiping Dionysus to gain ever expanding social influence among each other in the quest to be the top matriarch in their church and non-church sphere of influence with all frenzy, emotion, and excess manifest in their emotional terrorism to snag and bag a wage slave husband under the guise of Ms. Sweet Christian Lady; and those women that already have done so continue in their emotional terrorism on their wage slave husbands to fuel their frenzied excess displayed in material consumption of high dollar SUV's, McMansions, overpriced schools for their 2.5 kids, the latest fashions for themselves, etc.

General Hawk

[math_doc]

Hawk,
Don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

[Flsprtsgod]

I'm really going to have to work to keep my place as King of the Run On Sentence...

[vic-chic]

OK.... so I'm just wondering... Do you think that maybe a little bit of bitterness towards women as a whole on the part of some church going men, might keep them from seeing any good women that are out there?
I know many or maybe even most church women have bought into the stuff you guys are talking about, but so have most of the men at church. It seems that men andwomen that want to truly follow God and not the traditions of men are in the minority.


I believe that many of these women actually have their hearts in the right place, they are just doing what they are taught. I used to be just like that. As a matter of fact, I have been struggling with bitterness over how much of my life I have wasted trying to live the things I was taught at church. From the time I was 8, I sincerely wanted to follow Jesus and I tried to do so by doing all of the things I was taught at church. Many of my beliefs were wrong, but in my heart, I know I truly wanted to follow Jesus with my whole life.
When I read some books by Erwin McManus, and Why Men Hate Going to Church, I felt like I was awakening from 30 years of brainwashing. My prayer if for God to open the eyes of many more of his people.
I believe it all goes back to Jesus telling his disciples repeatedly to be ware of the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadduccees. Their teachings and traditions seemed to permeate and subtly influence everything. It is easy for us to be mislead by the "yeast" of today's Pharisee and Sadduccee-like traditions and teachings if we aren't constantly guarding ourselves against them.

[p27:17]

I believe it all goes back to Jesus telling his disciples repeatedly to be ware of the yeast of the Pharisees and Sadduccees. Their teachings and traditions seemed to permeate and subtly influence everything. It is easy for us to be mislead by the "yeast" of today's Pharisee and Sadduccee-like traditions and teachings if we aren't constantly guarding ourselves against them.

Vic I might disagree somewhat on this...a lot (more so than "Proverbs 31 women...such as yourself) use the bible and the church to perpetuate their comfortable power agendas inside the church. The male pastor may only be looking at numbers while the female leaders are looking for power and control...nothing to do with Pharisees IMHO. New women come in seeking a relationship but wind up following the traditional women's lead...we need more like you and the other women on this board to become the new leaders of women and the men need to get off the couch or the golf course and start leading in their homes first then look towards the church.

[kmc757]

As a single Christian guy, who is a virgin, and it amazes me to see how many Christian women assume guys want get married because they are either irresponsible or getting sex outside of marriage.

As Stephen Baskerville has said:

"Yet the men themselves express a weightier explanation of why they fear marriage: For many men, starting a family is a one-way ticket to jail, and even worse. Glenn Sacks and Dianna Thompson, [in the preceding article], found that many men now realize that any family they start can simply be taken away from them at any time, through forced divorce. Worse, once you have a child you become a likely candidate for false accusations of molestation, impossible child support payments, jail, and suicide.

Virtually every American now knows a father whose life has been taken over and destroyed by a divorce court:

• Like the disabled dentist who was told by a court to stop taking medication for a brain tumor and instead put the money into life insurance.

• Or like the defense worker who lost his job after September 11, who must pay 60% interest monthly on child support arrearages.

• Or the father who has been hauled into court 106 times in 3 years.

All these fathers were deserted by adulterous wives; all live on a few hundred dollars a month; and none can see his children.

Remaining true to your marital vows is no protection. Attorney Jed Abraham says the only way to avoid losing your family is not to start one in the first place.

A few years ago, conservative Maggie Gallagher wrote a book called The Abolition of Marriage, arguing that, legally speaking, no one is married and no one can marry.

Yet many conservatives seem to believe they can restore the institution by preaching at young people to marry. Some in the Bush administration want to use federal money to "educate" young people about its benefits. Yet young men will no longer be fooled.

If we wish to resurrect marriage, we must change the laws — plain and simple. Creating therapeutic programs merely avoids the issue and increases the reach of government.

Portraying marriage as a man's ball-and-chain used to be a joke. Now, it is a political problem."

http://www.ejfi.org/Civilization/Civilization-9.htm

Many Christian guys see what's going on in society and see no difference with women in the church (in terms of divorce rate), and see "Christian" women on the sidelines while feminist attack men or even worse Christian women join in on the verbal attacks.

[rixistential]

The outside of the churchy suburbanite lifestyle appears comfortable, sedate, and predictable, but on the inside, these women are worshiping Dionysus to gain ever expanding social influence among each other in the quest to be the top matriarch in their church and non-church sphere of influence with all frenzy, emotion, and excess manifest in their emotional terrorism to snag and bag a wage slave husband under the guise of Ms. Sweet Christian Lady; and those women that already have done so continue in their emotional terrorism on their wage slave husbands to fuel their frenzied excess displayed in material consumption of high dollar SUV's, McMansions, overpriced schools for their 2.5 kids, the latest fashions for themselves, etc. General Hawk

Very interesting!!! I think I'll put my order in for a third-world mail order bride today, and keep her away from the influence of American women- "What have you done for me lately!?!"